Like Goku, Vegeta is capable of using Super Saiyan Blue to raise his powers to astronomically high levels.Furthermore, Vegeta can even go a step beyond that with Blue Evolution, taking his powers even higher than Toppo, a God of Destruction candidate. Broly is even able to overpower Golden Frieza and fight on equals with Super Saiyan Gogeta who is multiple times stronger than both Goku and Vegeta. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. Jiren just glare at the spirit bomb and make into the black hole. Whether he is stronger than Beerus or not is still up in the air, but he is at the upper GoD level. SO Mui goku will win. Who beat the living crap out of golden freeza. add that LSSJ Broly still kinda kept up a bit against SSJB Gogeta (plus Gogeta felt the need to use SSJB), meaning he's above SSJG Gogeta whose SSJ Form is way … Dragon Ball Super Power Levels are all fan made and original, based on official power levels from the databooks, manga, anime and the daizenshuu guidebooks. And yes, hype statements are made before every fight in DBZ. so if SSJ Broly is already within that range of strength. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Blaze. Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. So how could Gogeta possibly be weaker than Goku? Even if goku was stronger than goten in the buu saga, goten would win. s-e-e-k-e-r 193 total posts: 1712 since: Jun 2017. Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) Gogeta Db Super > Vegito > Superman show 8 replies . EPIC SKILLS & MOVESET! So numerically, what does this mean? Using more realistic values takes it from 160x SSJ4 Gogeta to tens of thousands of times stronger. Jun 4, 19 at 9:29am (PST) ^ re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue: quote John West. 10/17/2019. Gogeta Blue is definitely stronger. Cumber stomps because even his restrained base form is stated by Goku to be stronger than Jiren who's stronger than a G.O.D even before he broke his limits while Gogeta Blue is stronger than a dude whose possibly stronger than a G.O.D plus the forms are nerfed in the Broly Movie so the possible multiplier for Gogeta's UI wouldn't be as strong as Goku's from the Prison Planet Saga or the Universal Conflict Arc Jiren is stronger than MUI Goku. Couldn't find this with a search so here we go. The only way then that Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta would be able to stand any real chance against Goku in the completed Ultra Instinct form is if the difference between Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Super Saiyan 4 Goku was greater than the difference between UI Goku (ToP) and Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG), and that's just not likely. If we take use SSJ3 as our baseline, then two SSJ4 characters have 10x multipliers each. How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. First of all, Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren because Gogeta is made of Goku’s and Vegeta’s best traits and multiplies it by a lot so any power-up or transformation Goku or Vegeta gets is added to Gogeta. Goget has to be weaker than Jiren, or Goku and Vegeta would have tried it on him. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. I honestly have no idea, they are both really strong, but I do know it would be a good fight. I believe it was Seth The Programmer who broke down all the feats and statements in GT to show that SSJ4 is far superior to SSJ Vegito. Gogeta Blue >> LB Jiren > FPSS Broly = MUI Goku. Rank the most powerful character in dragon ball. We don't know a numerical amount, I can easily see it being 100x, but for the sake of really showcasing how far ahead Super is to GT let's choose the bare minimum (40x) and only make SSJG 2x stronger than that. And finally, MUI is again clearly stronger, and again we'll pick the utter minimum increase of 2x. Super Baby2 arrives January 15th, 2021 with Gogeta SS4 coming soon! Base Gogeta would be > SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBE Vegeta is > Omen MUI however is unknown but it wouldn't matter reallyGoku can tap into MUI at will now. MUI defeated Jiren, who is stronger than someone stronger than Beerus, according to Whis, who saw Beerus at his fullest. Yea you see Goku and Vegeta training with Whis, but it doesn't look any different than basic training they've always done. In both the extended edition of the BoG movie and the BoG arc of Super, Goku indicates that he feels that even fusing with Vegeta wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, and that Super Saiyan God, when he obtained it, is a level of power beyond anything he believed could have existed. The answer is pretty clear. Ssj gogeta is stronger than regular ssj broly. So compared to Current Goku, Moro's strongest forms, and Beerus is Jiren...... SSJ Goku on Namek vs a hypothetical Kaioken x 50 Goku for the Freeza fight. So if MUI/CUI Goku is "X amount" stronger than SSJB Goku in the last fight with Jiren, take that number and apply it to Goku in the Kefla fight, and see how a SSJB Kefla would scale to that. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku VS Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta - Who is stronger? This is a hard stomp. shaneherald 3 mo 15 d 3 mo 15 d After a brief too-fast-to-see-statue-fight, MUI Goku … Current Base Gogeta would be stronger than UI Goku.. The gap between Gogeta Blue and Goku Blue is as vast as the one between SSJ Goku and SSJ Gogeta (from Janemba's movie) ratio wise, so it's an abyss we are talking about. yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. DB Xenoverse 2 Mods: 2019-10-15: CHARACTER SWAP! But then you find out it's actually stronger than SSJG, making it useless immediately. Since Goku and Vegeta are both stated much stronger than Gohan, and their SS2 powers would equal 6000 killi, the lowest end of scale is the most accurate. Jiren is stronger than a GoD, who is confirmed by Whis, who knows the full extent of Beerus's power,to be stronger than him. Goku and Vegeta should both be at that level. this means a mere SSJ Broly is 50x stronger than someone who's much stronger than SSJB Goku. While we don't know where exactly Gogeta stands in power here, we know for a fact that he was pushed to SSJBlue by Broly, who might be stronger than Beerus, according to Goku, who never saw Beerus at 100%, so he is most likely closer in power to Broly than to … I think it all just becomes too much for SSJ4 Gogeta to handle. I dont think SSj4 Gogeta would even beat SSB Goku, maybe even SSG Goku. Base Kefla also made SSG Goku look pathetic in the ToP. So as we can see, even when picking ridiculously unrealistically low values for the scaling in Super, it's still ludicrously stronger than anything in GT. NEW DOPEST SKILLS & MOVESET! Is Gogeta as strong as Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku and Awakened Jiren from the Tournament of power? Spyro Reignited Trilogy MOD: 2019-10-14: STRONGER THAN OMNI KING! It happens. 3 Can Shatter Dimensions ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. If this was kaioken x 20 SSB Goku vs SSJ4 Gogeta, I do think we'd have a very good fight. And yet SSB Goku managed not to be fodderized by Jiren later on. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, someone who according to Goku, who has not seen Beerus's full power, MIGHT be stronger than him. Mastered Ultra Instinct can't loose. The whole god-ki attaining process is still nebulous. Pure Buu, being about equal to SS3 Goku in strength, meant he was 400 times stronger than Goku putting his all into their struggle. Then he has his SSG form which is a lot stronger than SSJ3, then SSB, then kaioken or complete SSB (if you follow the manga instead) and then UI which is massively stronger on top of it. stop the jiren dickriding. Dragon Ball Super Special 109 and 110 has been released and debuted Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren! 269 477 Megtekintés. this would include Jiren at his peak, Jiren at his peak is undoubtedly UI level, with MUI Goku being only slightly stronger than him. broly was stated more powerful. So, at minimum, Jiren, using just his glare and not struggling whatsoever whilst still heavily suppressed, is 400 times stronger than SSB/KKx20 Goku. User Info: MUIGogito. It solos everything espcally MUGENverse and your computer.Anyways,this page is a huge downplay compare to the true Mathrus And even worse,there have a 2 Omegadownplayed version of it:https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus https://joke-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Mathrus_(M.U.G.E.N) 1 Siriel. How is SS Gogeta stronger than MUI Goku? Goku has gotten a whole lot stronger since the start of Super though and even if we assume that his base form is still behind his GT self, he can't be too far behind at this point. So you guys think current MUI Goku one shots Jiren? Before creation must come destruction - Beerus, A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta. Fusion is now stated as their combined powers multiplied "tens" of times. Now SSJB is a simple 50x multiplier. STRONGEST NEW VEGETA OOZARU MUI HEAVEN FORM! This is a hard stomp. So in this hypothetical, SSJG is 80x SSJ3 as an absolutely unrealistic bare minimum. So 2 * 20-99. 2020.dec.20. now SSJ Broly was stated in the novel to be more powerful than anyone fought before him. I honestly think that Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance. Ending with 320,000x SSJ3 (and 160x stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta). And we know SSJG is easily stronger than this. Okay, so this isn’t exactly a reason why Gogeta is stronger than Vegito, but it should be. He wasn't wrong, Beerus was definitely beyond Vegito, he was just also beyond SSG. Gogeta was pushed to blue by a guy who might be stronger than Beerus according to Goku who hasn't even seen Beerus's full power yet. Base Gogeta would be > SSJBE Vegeta and SSJBE Vegeta is > Omen MUI however is unknown but it wouldn't matter reallyGoku can tap into MUI at will now. Now UIO is clearly stronger by an indeterminate amount. 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