That is a much better debate. Although, there were statements outside the show saying Broly was stronger than a God of Destruction. The only two mortals that surpasses Beerus are Jiren and Goku with his Mastered Ultra Instinct form. As you can see, there is no reasonable arguement that can put Gogeta anywhere near the kind of power even an SSB possesses, much less Beerus. In Tournament of Power, Whis personally said that: "His powers has reached the domains of a God of Destruction or potentially has even surpassed it" when Jiren only released a bit of his Ki or that he was supressed heavily. And go to 3:06. Probably > Might. The fact he took years to build that much energy shows OS himself is actually even weaker than that, so beating him isn't really much of an achievement here. what is this a joke? What is Beerus's level? Thx for watching Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_.attila._145/ Makes sense. The fight between SSJ3 Goku and Beerus was one-sided, but Goku could still track Beerus's movements for the most part. Not to mention he wasn’t busting the universe, he was merely ripping through the barriers to parallel dimensions until the universe collapsed. Gogeta and Broly hasn't even shown anything that's close to what Jiren was capable of during the Tournament of Power. All you doing is giving implications and marketing hype from the movie's trailers and announcements. That just evidently means that he was comparing it to Beerus, when he said that Jiren is on par with a God of Destruction. Frieza was still in his transformation and he was not even fatally wounded. He acknowledges that the power Jiren is showing right now isn't his full power, meaning he's likely gauging a Full Power Jiren. He was shaking the stadium, that's the only thing there is to shake. @karkus: Might and Probably are the same? © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Goku stated that Broly might even surpass Beerus. SSJB Gogeta roflstomped a Beerus level fighter. God Ki is needed in this fight, and even if SSJ4 Gogeta can damage hum with punches and kicks, it still most likely will be weaker than Beerus. It all depends on who the authors like more, and its been like this for quite a while now. beerus via feats locks at universal. This isn't like the T.O.P. There's no proof to suggest that Gogeta is even on Beerus' level.Judging by the movie.Gogeta hasn't shown anything in terms of feat wise that's even comparable to Jiren. then again gogeta can just kill the supreme kai and easily neg, Beerus grabs Gogeta by hair and says hakai. cat dies. If Broly was on Beerus'level, you would think the least he can do is gravely injure Frieza? You were the one who claimed Beerus >>> Broly, but haven't provided any evidence. And his statement was solely basing it off of the Beerus in [God of Destruction arc]. @karkus: Even Whis stopped Beerus and Goku's match when they were just merely "sparring". He's also had the training of Whis, and Angel and the most powerful being in Universe 6 (I think it's 6, maybe 7). Boosting Omega Shenron's power level to Beerus level won't be enough for a victory for Omega. Jiren would easily thrash Broly when he's heavily surpressed. Going by feats for one character while scaling for the other is stupid, especially when Beerus(the character with feats) would scale massively above Buuhan as well. His power remained mostly undefined throughout Super other than being much stronger than SSB. Buu was going to destroy the mortal universe, there is nothing suggesting otherworld would have been destroyed too. Personally,I think SSJ4 Gogeta would be stronger than Beerus and Whis.This is how I think the fights would go:It would take Beerus a while to go 100% because he hasn't went that in a long time so,SSJ4 Gogeta would probably toy with Beerus until he goes 100%.Once Beerus does reach his max power,I think SSJ4 Gogeta would still play around with him.I think Beerus is about 40% SSJ4 Gogeta.So,SSJ4 Gogeta goes 75%,toys around with Beerus,then knocks him out.Now,Whis. GG. Gogeta via having an awesome design, beyond anything seen in Super. Beerus would take this mid to high dif. Whilst Jiren was heavily supressed. How many times do we have to keep debunking this? @deathwingterminatort1000: Please tell me how SSJ4 Gogeta does not stand up to SSB Goku, @deathwingterminatort1000: yea ik lol I was just fucking around with that post lmao. @mainjp: When Broly attacked Frieza in his Golden form for an hour, not only Frieza didn't sustain any life threatening injuries, but Frieza was still in his Golden form.Toppo a God of Destruction in training, theorectically the weakest God of Destruction, absolutely thrashed Frieza without trying whatsoever and Jiren knocked Frieza out cold in one shot.Gogeta smashing dimensions is nothing new since Super Buu nearly succeded in doing that whilst Gohan was absorbed.That's not impressive at all... Jiren's 'hint of his true power' made Goku revert back to his base form, because he realized how powerful he truly was and Vegeta said that Jiren's Ki was the 'heaviest ki I have ever felt'. The same can't be said while fighting Broly. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. Gogeta vs Beerus Power Levels - Dragon Ball Super - YouTube Gogeta's power is way beyond the gods of destruction, Beerus wouldn't stand a chance against him especially in the blue form. Hope this helped. ?Then how do you know that Gogeta is stronger than Beerus just because he dominated Broly...Beerus never showed 100% of his power so Goku only compared Broly's power to Beerus when he fought against him in the God of Destruction arc...There's no evidence to suggest that Broly nor Gogeta was more powerful than Beerus.They might can push Beerus.But defeating him is ridiculous.Beerus has millions years more training and fighting experience than the two combined... Beerus UI (Whis said he haven't his master UI) >>>>>> Beerus full power (Goku can never see Beerus using FP) >>>> SSB gogeta >> LSSJ Broly > LB jiren = MUI Goku. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. @chasekilleen: in the manga Beerus was holding his oun against 11 GoDs Belmod including, as well being the last GoD standing alongside quitela who’s statement proves this 2 are the strongest GoDs saying he figure both of them will be the last standing, while elmod was smiling on the ground it doesn’t mean his stronger than Beerus it’s only mean he rather not put himself in a hard fight for no good reason while Beerus and quitela had a score to settle and are the strongest GoDs, also in the manga it was quitela who beat Beerus in Arm wrestling not Belmod and even if you want to argue it’s Belmod in the anime it doesn’t mean he will beat him in a straight fight it’s only Means he’s slightly stronger, Beerus has better feats/statements and implication to be the strongest GoD. Even base super goku solostomps GT. According to Goku, Beerus is around the level of Broly. So we can say that Goku is the least reliable power scaler in Dragon Ball (DB) franchise. amrite? Super Saiyan God increases the power by x700. They never said MUI "might" be stronger than Beerus, https://twitter.com/KenXyro/status/1026341411283763202. There are battles on this forum with SSJB Vegito vs Beerus. Jiren heavily surpressed scared Beerus, to the point that he was sweating and was nearly in despair. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. Meaning he is much stronger than he was before. He literally says that his power is on a God of Destruction or surpassed it. Beerus in the manga pretty much bested the entire other Gods of Destruction and also without trying whatsoever one hit KO'ED Vegeta in his Mastered Super Saiyan Blue form, a form that's on par with Vegito Blue and he took Vegeta out in one shot, that's when he was serious, to teach Vegeta a lesson to not be cocky. and it better not be ''my opinion''. Made Goku scared just by showing 'a hint' of his true power.Gogeta/Broly did none of that even remotely close to what Jiren did when heavily surpressed try again. SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball ... no one on this list is on his level, meaning if Gogeta doesn't take down Broly straight away, Broly will simply adapt and get too strong. : that 's close to what Jiren was far from full power from physical attacks be Angle... @ phantasial: Threatning to bust the universe multiple times casually > >... 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