The Katana, as used by Japanese Samurai, is 38–40 inches long, and weighs less than two pounds. so if they are both meh katana 7/10. If this distance is much larger, the fight is more neutral, but I lean towards the katana. A greatsword is one word to describe a dedicated two-handed sword. If you were a Scottish reenactor so would a claymore. This last bit is pretty important. If neither opponent has armour the slicing weapon will win, if they both have armour, even if it's just thin chainmail, the slicing weapon will be made less than worthless and the chopping weapon will be unhindered. Only if they are both unarmored. Claymore is a coordinate term of sword. but its dead now so here is a better version! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6LcGEzUmdM explains the point better than I could. if they're both equally skilled then it's a toss up since if katana dude get's inside claymore dudes guard it's done but if he can't then claymore dude wins. The 4850’s approach to power is also interesting. Longsword and Katana Considered. The claymore was a battlefield weapon, the Katana was more for personal defense in close quarters or if a primary weapon was broken. AMD’s CPU guys have been doing a pretty good job of making lemonades out of lemons, including today’s launch of the 2GHz Phenom 9350, a 65W quad core CPU—a power envelope Intel’s 45nm quad-core Penryns have yet to match. Interestingly, both are two-handed swords. Subscribing to a newsletter indicates your consent to our, ET Deals: Nearly $800 Off Dell 2020 Vostro 15 7500 Core i7, Ring Video Doorbell 3 w/ Echo Show 5 for $149, Gaming Laptop With Ryzen 7 5800H, Mobile RTX 3080 Leaked, Astronomers Spot Potentially Artificial Radio Signal From Nearby Star, This End Of Year Flash Sale From Skullcandy Offers Up Headphones For Up To 56 Percent Off, DOSBox Pure Launches to Make Classic Games Easier to Play. Equally skilled doesn't mean it's down to the sword; a claymore takes a fair bit more heft to swing then a katana does, so if they are equally crap, then the katana guy wins. Xbox 360 Nintendo Switch PC PlayStation 4 Xbox One. 41; Jul 2nd 2016, 6:28am. Basically, neither weapon was very good for one-on-one fighting. Its very sharp so it won’t get stuck in them as easily and its not quite as heavy as a european sword. A katana hits more lightly, then its curve makes it continue cutting as you draw the weapon from it's target, which makes for some very deep cuts on fleshy bits. both are being wielded by equally skilled opponents so its all down to the sword. For the first time in a long time, the choices between GPUs are starkly different. Dat 1h R2 Kreygasm. My first character's weapon was a Dragon Claymore. Ironically, neither weapon is especially good for defense, the claymore blade being somewhat flexible, and the katana having the opposite issue of being quite brittle. Also the claymore was longer and had more reach, so it could strike at the katana wielder first and having to block that first blow as they come in to range to attack can put the katana at a disadvantage. All motions are cruelly effecient and all the power comes from the core of your body. "large/great sword") can refer to either the longsword with a distinctive two-handed grip, or the basket-hilted sword. While Nvidia has dropped the price of the 9800 GTX to the $200 level, that card still requires two power connectors, and is a double-wide card. The Scottish name "claymore" (Scottish Gaelic: claidheamh mór, lit. You're comparing apples and oranges. I know few fighters who wouldn't make you work for every inch gained. Claymore. To settle a debate between friends which sword would win in a 1 versus 1 situation. all of our swords are fully functional and made of quality materials. Katana is more brittle in general, but that's not going to matter in a fight like this. As for drawing on the attack. BudK is offering forged katanas from $40 right now. ATI: We’ve got hardware tessellation! If one is superior then that is how the fight sways, its the whole point of the question. The secondary attack swings in such a wide arc that it hits anything within range across the entire Field of View, making the Scythe an excellent melee weapon to use for crowd control. PCMag Digital GroupExtremeTech is among the federally registered trademarks of Ziff Davis, LLC and may not be used by third parties without explicit permission. The going idea in the comments was that Japanese folded steel is folded over so many times because of the impurities in japanese steel. Give them both plate mail and claymore wins 9/10. Verdandi wrote: you forget that it is a magic torch. The Heartstealer is a unique variant of the claymore, a large sword that swings slowly but deals a wallop of a hit. That is a style of katana use not often taught. It's already a light blade, you are hurting the structure when you do that. [citation needed] The two handed claymore is an early Scottish version of a greatsword. I am an amateur sword fighter who knows a bit about both weapons and have trained with both. If you want to alter the fight conditions a bit, I'll give a new answer. Katana vs Straight Sword Dark Souls PlayStation 3 . Log In to add custom notes to this or any other game. I understand, thats what this sub is about to a degree, but what you're asking is "What is better at carving a pumpkin, a ferrari or a rubber mallet?" The two-handed grip and weight on a claymore necessitates a certain stance that is begging for a slice to the upper arms and elbows. I think you're underestimating how effective a skilled archer can be, especially if they are not initially visible to each other. The Heartstealer can deal as much as 2000 damage points an attack. 100% agree. A claymore hits like an axe, it just drives a wedge into the person. I think it's a subjective sort of question that only you can answer. The end result is a highly efficient GPU. Not too heavy with a long reach and fairly quick attack. The claymore is actually meant to be an anti cavalry weapon. This means that with it you can easily go from a block right in to a counter attack with out having to bring the weapon around.
They are made for you on order. The claymore in no way is a cavalry weapon. Aggressive clock gating is used throughout the chip, which allows a card with the performance of the 4850 to get by with just a single PCI Express power connector. ATI isn’t ignoring the non-graphics market, either. The Scottish Highland claymore is a two-handed sword with a cross hilt, is about 55-inches long and weighs about 5.5lbs. As much as I love the scottish claymore, the katana wielder would probably win in this case. A Claymore by any other name.. by: Paul There is a fair amount of confusion surrounding the word 'Claymore' and technically it refers to two types of swords, the late medieval period two handed swords used in clan warfare and border clashes with the English (highlander) or the basket hilt one handed sword used by the Scottish military much longer than other armies (Scottish). It wasn't a bludgeoning tool, many of the claymore blades are flat in cross section, making them good for cutting and relatively light for their length of 107 cm (42 in), versus the katana's 60 cm (23.5 in). This newsletter may contain advertising, deals, or affiliate links. [ example 1] (http://imgur.com/QyQkmPO) [ example 2] (http://imgur.com/jiLQVx6) The claymore was made to deal with both heavily European armored targets and unarmored targets. Even at $200, it’s likely that there’s some price headroom, as the 4850 die size is considerably smaller than that of Nvidia’s 280 GTX. No sorry a katana actually is a very good weapon vs undead at least if its a real katana and not some shit made sword by some dude in china in a factory. But with its longer reach, and versatility to deal with all manner of enemies I give the edge to the Claymore. And while Nvidia can currently claim leadership in Folding@home, the app has yet to be fully tweaked for the Radeon 4000 series. Oct 17, 2018 @ 4:11am Katana can stun scrake if you attack from the rear as zerker, also fireaxe offperk (non-zerker) can stun scrake if you attack with alt (mmb) from behind too, both have their uses. Subscribe Today to get the latest ExtremeTech news delivered right to your inbox. A famous blacksmith is testing a katana vs a german longsword. See the claymore is the Swiss army knife of swords. Also, there is proof that both can pierce a metal plate straight through. They are going to be aware that getting you to overextend yourself is the only hope of victory. That is, it’s too long to wear, and too big to use in one hand with any reasonable expectation of ease. The katana was a weapon of last resort because people would usually keep formation. A gamer who pays $200 for a video card is unlikely to spend over $1,000 for a monitor. Claymore or Scottish Basket Hilted Broadsword A common weapon among the clansmen during the Jacobite rebellions of the late 17th and early 18th centuries was the Scottish Basket Hilted Broadsword, commonly known as claidheamh mor or “claymores” – meaning “great sword” in Scottish Gaelic.

Even a large sword is 3 pounds. I am going to just say that all combatants are decent with their weapon. They are two of the world's most recognizable and iconic weapons in history: the European double-handed knightly sword and the feudal Japanese double-handed samurai sword. I don't know why this sub loves the concept of someone dancing around blows. Without throwing in the human interaction, you have two bits of metal laying on the floor. And this is basically a duel. Turns out a thingy of chainmail stops a katana pretty fucking good. Zweihänder If you make up a fantasy scenario where for some reason nobody has armour, sure it wins. A katana is for harassing peasants, it's not a weapon used for combat between armoured warriors, like the claymore is. It is their battle to lose. Loved that thing to death. Nope, though it approaches the GTX 260 in some tests. Many schools actively disdain such principles of combat. It depends on when you’re talking about, and the context of the conversation. Case Study – Katana VS Longsword. While both swords certainly require skill and training to use well, the claymore’s advantage lie in power and reach, while the katana’s strengths lie in speed and precision. Its got long reach with a nice point, double edged blade, and a nice thick heavy cross guard and pommel. If they are both talented with their swords, it's fairly neutral. He has better balance on the horse, better control over his power on the horse. You are indeed where you belong. At those resolutions, turning up AA is more useful than a few more frames per second—provided performance stays above that magical 60 fps number. Its advantage of shearing through armor is virtually negated in the unarmored scenario which means it's packing a whole lot of useless weight. He made both weapons exactly in the same way like they were made in the past. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Each of these famous sword types owes its design to the marriage of pragmatic function with technological form. If you take out factors like individual soldier skill, armor and various other variables then my vote would be with the broadsword since that includes the claymore. if they're both shit then the person with the claymore won't be able to use his extra reach on the weapon to any real effect and the katana imo would be much easier to just pick up and use since it doesn't weigh a fuck ton. If you were practicing JSA a katana would be a no brainer. It comes out fast, it comes back fast, it hurts bad when it hits. However if both are meh, I would give it to the katana, the edge geometry makes it a very easy sword to cut with, while cutting correctly with a claymore requires quite a bit more skill. i'm taking most of what i know from these videos: the claymore, and the katana. And again this is a specific cutting motion that makes it even easier to break said katana. On foot, he is slow at best, and clumsy at worst. Like the Dark Katana, it can only be found at Obsidian Pinnacle, but on any difficulty. Rather than throw massive transistor counts at the problem, they were given specific cost and die size targets—in addition to a fairly aggressive minimum power envelope. with that, i disagree. So who’s going to win the war? Officer. This may sound eerily similar to the marketing fight going on in CPUs between AMD and Intel. Also it's hard to tell, but it looks like someone put a fuller in the Katana for some reason? The Scythe serves as a sidegrade to the Claymore: the Scythe is slightly stronger and cheaper than the Claymore but is a bit slower and has a slightly smaller range. Is it as fast as a GTX 280? What it will really come down to over the long haul is how well each company executes on its vision. I'm gonna attempt to get the Crescant right now. The real question is "Claymore, or Katana + Fire Axe?" As nouns the difference between claymore and sword is that claymore is a large two-handed sword historically used by the scottish highlanders while sword is (weaponry) a long-bladed weapon having a handle and sometimes a hilt and designed to … With him being lighter on his feet than the Scotsman, the kendo practitioner should find it easy to just dodge the blows. Great swords are also plenty fast when properly held. Likes Received 336 Posts 222. Nvidia: We’ve got PhysX! it would be a little faster but a claymore also would have quite a bit more reach on it. Yes the katana users are trained to block with the dull edge of they can immediately counter attack with the sharp side, with a double edge I find its easier to block then go into a counter attack and it has more options and ways to do so then the katana. Ironically, neither weapon is especially good for defense, the claymore blade being somewhat flexible, and the katana having the opposite issue of being quite brittle. There are several katana styles, and without knowing which style, what skill the user has, what type of strength and agility they have, as well as the same for the claymore, you cant really say. If you have actual warriors fighting with actual equipment, the claymore stomps. Well, in some cases, not bloody much. ATI: We’ve got DirectX 10.1. You have two weapons, one for chopping and one for slicing. This would happen during the vast majority of these encounters, as a claymore is a rather unwieldy weapon at very close range no matter your physical strength. It … Weighing in at 1.4 billion transistors and a gigabyte of video memory, the 280 GTX demonstrates what you can do when you throw massive transistor budget at the 3D graphics problem. I feel like that analogy is a bit harsh, I mean, they are both designed for combat and arguably both suited for a 1v1. Sharp blades can easily cut through thick layers of cloth and leather. We’ll get to those shortly. The Scottish Highland claymore is a two-handed sword with a cross hilt, is about 55-inches long and weighs about 5.5lbs. Last the Claymore is double edged. When swung, the Phoenix Edge shoots a small burst of flame in the direction the player is aiming, which can kill additional enemies and detonate oil barrels. By John Clements. Will Larrabee be a more advanced sword, or a different kind of weapon altogether? The argument here is, the katana was a weapon of last resort (which would make sense; if it were a primary weapon, they'd be constantly trying to improve it somehow but it basically stayed the same for 700 years) and was used for chopping and slicing, rather than penetrating armor. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The claymore weight was usually around 2.5 kg (5.5 lbs), and the Katana was often around 1.2 kg (2.65 lbs). © 1996-2020 Ziff Davis, LLC. Press J to jump to the feed. Recently there was a gif of a Longsword breaking a katana and a katana bending when trying to do the same. A claymore (/ ˈ k l eɪ m ɔːr /; from Scottish Gaelic: claidheamh-mòr, "great sword") is either the Scottish variant of the late medieval two-handed sword or the Scottish variant of the basket-hilted sword.The former is characterised as having a cross hilt of forward-sloping quillons with quatrefoil terminations and was in use from the 15th to 17th centuries. it was analogous to modern soldiers having a Pistol in addition to having an assault rifle. On the one hand, we have Nvidia’s new GeForce 280 GTX. neither sword would really have any inherent advantage over the other imo it would all be up to the people using them. Basically, neither weapon was very good for one-on-one fighting. The katana was not used on the battlefield so much ("samurai" as the west thinks of them used guns alot) but it was extensively used as a dueling weapon. I think an expert of their weapon at all styles would suffice for both weapons in this scenario. And don’t forget, there’s a third weapon that will enter the fight in about eighteen months: Intel’s Larrabee. I stored my Daedric Katana in my house when I "found" (ahem murdered a guy and stole it from him ahem) a Daedric Claymore. With two equally skilled opponents, i would give it to the claymore, if only because it has longer reach and has the ability to penetrate armor, and the katana has a circlejerk surrounding it that's largely just hype. They did an episode of deadliest warrior on this. If it was anywhere in the order of five feet or less, a skilled kendo iajutsu practitioner could kill the Scotsman with his unsheathe. 1; 2; 3 Page 3 of 4; 4; Loweeeee. Good price and performance is certainly important, but the ATI team’s approach to solving the problems was more interesting. We opened with a comparison of the highland claymore versus the katana. I can think of several situations in which either would win, but in honest, its not the sword that wins the fight, its the fighter. As someone with some small experience with both, I wouldn't feel overly confident fighting against someone identical to me using either, but I think I'd give preference to the reach. It can and can do so very well also. I feel like a lot of people here are laboring under the impression that katanas are feather light and claymores axe heavy. It can't parry the claymore very well, but that rarely occurs in kendo anyway. Nvidia has greater resources, but ATI has proven itself nimble and focused. Based on our initial benchmark testing, ATI delivered in spades. Meant to be close in use to that of a pole arm rather than a traditional sword, more of a weapon you let someone impale themselves/horse around. There is no real scenario in which you can say one blade is 'better' than another because they were made for two different things, and the styles are completely different. If its equal, then its a 5/10 chance, there will always be scenarios where the other can win hence why there's a 7/10 chances because you can recognize that its situational and theres a 3/10 the other will catch the other one out. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So the claymore was twice as heavy, but it was also balanced about 6 inches from the hilt, just like a katana. Their latest GPU, the Radeon 4850, performs quite well, and is priced right, too, at under $200. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. It’s more likely they’ll have a sub-$400, 22-inch display with 1680×1050. I’m sure both Nvidia and ATI wonder about that, too. Vs Broadsword i did this before but i was a noob and didn't do any pictures or anything an it just wasn't a good thread. The feature war goes back and forth, too. ... Last resort give me a box of grenades or claymore mines. Stick one on a man on a horse, watch him lay about him tearing people in half with the power of his strikes. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I don't know why, I prefer swift stikes versus brutish swings, but whatever. I find generally the advantage goes to the person with reach. 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