I'm talking about 6.5 or even 9 MOA dots here. 26mm, die Leuchtpunktgröße ist mit 3 MOA angegeben. It's already cut out for the red dot sight and you won't need to make any additional modifications. The button to change brightness is right in front of the window. Hero Member; Posts: 232; Re: Vortex Venom « Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 07:00:37 AM » Tweet; Quote from: Txag12 on March 20, 2017, 10:18:56 PM. This is lightweight and compact enough. Either will perform the job as good as the other. The Viper comes with a much lower profile and has only a 6 MOA dot option. The Red dot window is 24.1mm wide and 18mm high, and the red dot is 6 MOA, which means it covers 6 inches at 100 yards. Standard windage and elevation adjustment dials give out an audible click when you turn them. But of all the red dots on the list, I'm only 100% certain about Trijicon RMR performing in night vision settings. For me, the good sides of red dots on pistols far outweigh the negatives. Here are some feature comparison that might help you decide between the Vortex Viper Red Dot and the Vortex Venom 3 MOA (or even Vortex Venom 6 MOA); 1. From the 16 red dots we reviewed for this article, all of them were either: And after reviewing the quality, here's what we have to say about each of them. The sight doesn't perform well with night vision. The price of both units will depend on the demand and supply of the scope. But like Vortex above, Burris offers a lifetime warranty and will replace any product that is not 100%. Vortex Venom has 10 brightness settings which can be adjusted manually or through its auto-brightness feature. Unlike the companies above, ADE doesn't come with a lifetime warranty. They're both good sights that check all the boxes. I'm hoping to see some new models hit the market soon. MOA stands for Minute Of Angle, so this RDS would paint a 6 inch area on a target that is 100 yards away. Both are the same thing, and there's no difference at all between the two. To turn off, press and hold the down arrow for five seconds. Its slim profile permits you to freely move your gun and pick up your target extremely fast which is great for close-range accuracy. On a single battery. In this mode, Leupold stays turned off until you move your firearm. There are 2 questions that you need to answer here: If you answered "yes" to either one of these, skip Leupold and go for Trijicon RMR. The ability to threat focus is probably the most important upside that you get from a red dot sight, especially if you're planning to use it for self-defense. The Venom is small measuring only 6.7 x 5.1 x 2.9 inches. With higher brightness settings your dot will get larger and won't be as crisp. Red dots run on batteries and batteries can fail - The good news is that batteries on these are designed to last for years. Before getting to the comparison part, let’s familiarize ourselves with Vortex Venom first. Type 1 is the previous version and had problems with shock-proofing on the battery. My favorite Red Dot. Leupold Delta Point Pro - Best Screen / Motion Activated Pistol Red Dot, 5. So now for the run down. But I'm seeing way more red dots on handguns these days. Burris Fastfire III - The Runner-Up Value For Money Pistol Red Dot. Both are perfect choices and are application dedicated for best performance. Both the vortex venom and vortex viper prices depend on the supply and demand of the particular scope. See the video below for more info and a demonstration. Length 1.9 inches. The Viper does require you remove it to reach the battery, but then this is a small con when comparing to the sleeker and smaller design of the unit. However, that’s as far as it goes. The main difference between the two models is in the overall application. You have people vouching for both of them. Set of 2 Vortex Precision Matched Medium Plus Rings 34mm. Bigger dots - there is a common misconception that a bigger dot will help you aim and acquire your target faster. Because, when you're pointing your gun at the attacker, you'd have to pull your focus away from the threat to the sights of your gun to aim properly. Leupold has a bigger, clearer glass than the Trijicon RMR above. There are 3 different types of red dots - (1) Tritium, (2) LED, and (3) dual Tritium/LED. So if you want a red dot that will work in all light conditions, keep things simple and get yourself an LED sight. A couple of years ago, you would mostly see red dots on rifles and shotguns. Side note: Imagine this - you get a reflex sight when you're 30 and the next time you have to change it is when you're 33. The main advantage is the top loading battery option that is perfect for long continuous use in the field. Plus, it's one of the smallest & low-profile red dots on the market. Vortex Venom Features & Specifications. Not a big problem, considering that you only need to do it once in 4 years. If you switch the battery every six months (just to be sure) you're going to be fine. Maybe you need it, maybe you don't - that's for you to decide. If, however, you only have handguns, and more than one, then the Viper would be better for its sleeker design. Out of the box, the Venom is ready to mount on a Picatinny spec base rail with the included low rail mount. Motion-sensed activation is a battery-saving mode that other sights don't have. Most sights fit Springfield OPS as well. Let’s take a look at the two and decide. Parallax Setting Parallax Free. The 6 MOA dot option makes it easier to acquire targets, and the sleeker design makes the weapon slightly more versatile in tight situations. On one side you have people saying that they're impressed with the quality. One advantage of this model is that it comes as a top load system, so you can change the battery cell CR 1632 easy since you don’t need to rove the sight when changing the power pack. This is not a sight that you have to be "gentle" with. I ended up getting a 3 MOA Venom for my 22/45 Lite but honestly can't tell the difference in the size of the dot. 1 click = 1 MOA. Battery access from the top - no need to unmount the scope to change the battery. You never know when it's going to lose its zero or break down on you. These sights have virtually no downsides and will last you a lifetime if you take good care of it. Multiple anti-reflective coatings on all air-to-glass surfaces increase light transmission. Otherwise, Leupold's your thing. The Viper comes with an ultra-sleek design and comes with multi-coated, ultra-clear lens coatings, and the illumination controls are conveniently located on the left side together with the up/down power switch. Because on the other side, there is folk having all kinds of issues with this red dot. Both sights are perfect for handgun applications, and the sleeker Viper will give you that added benefit of size saving functionality. Keep in mind that getting a cheap red dot is a bit like playing the lottery - you never know if you're going to get a defective product or not. However, the difference in size makes the Viper a harder model to change batteries. Reflex sight is just another name for a red dot sight. I used to have a Trijicon RMR on my EDC Glock with the auto setting on 100% of the time. I've seen reports that if you keep this one on Auto mode, the battery will last anywhere from 350 to 1,000 hours (as opposed to the 11,000 hours they advertise). A red dot will allow you to aim & threat-focus faster than using iron sights on your pistol. Here's the best video that I've found showing how to properly aim & shoot with a red dot: 1. Das kleine kompakte Vortex Venom Red Dot ist mit einigen Funktionen ausgestattet. The Venom is a do-all mini dot optic sight that is designed to work on both handguns and rifles. Leupold Delta Point Pro is another professional reflex sight and a strong competitor to Trijicon RMR. Both these models are mini Red Dot sights for handguns and rifle applications. Both these models are mini Red Dot sights for handguns and rifle applications. So, if you're a beginner and you don't know whether you should get a red dot for your gun - that is the one scenario where I can recommend Ohuhu. It's not a critical flaw, but I prefer laser dots with buttons on the sides. Red Dot Fitment: Vortex Viper/Venom, Burris FastFire, Crimson Trace CTS-1200, CTS-1300, Docter, ADE RD3-001*, ADE RD3-02*, ADE RD3-009*, UTG Reflex Micro Dot, Sightmark Mini Shot Red Dots, Sightmark Core Shot Red Dots *All ADE mounts require 6-32 x 3/8" screws. A finer dot is always the best option while out on the field. This category is where Trijicon RMR, Leupold DeltaPoint Pro, Sig Sauer Romeo 1 and Vortex Razor live. I don't know how they do it, but that battery life just blows their competition out of the water. 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That's because when shooting with a red dot, you only have align the dot and your target. In this price range, you're getting legit field/duty use scopes. This red dot is bigger and heavier than Burris/Vortex. The sight shuts off automatically after an hour to save battery. These Vortex Venom Red Dot Sights feature large, bright red dot reticles and 10 brightness settings for clear targeting in any light levels or background colors. In this review, I present both sight details, features, and specifications and then compare both models using them on the same weapon and testing handling and performance. But the most important thing to know about ADE is that it works... unless you get a defective model. The battery is top-changing and you won't have to remove your sight to change it. The daylight bright red dot is easy to see and paints targets irrespective of environmental lighting conditions or background. High quality, fully multi-coated lenses offer a clean, wide field of view. The Venom Red Dot Sight-3 MOA promotes rapid target acquisition while providing a precise point of aim; getting shots down range and on target fast. Apart from the MOA difference, the two Venom models are identical. An important thing to watch out for is not having your red dot turned up too much. It's susceptible to the elements - If a little drop of rain falls on the spot where the LED is coming from, it will distort the laser. Inspect your unit carefully when you get it. But generally... the reviews on this sight are mixed. The durable, machined aluminum housing ensures the unit will stand up to whatever you throw at it. Shooting at the distance - Red dots are unparalleled when you're shooting at the distance, especially when compared to iron sights. With other handguns, it's going to depend on the model. 2. Still, after taking a closer look we prefer Vortex Venom over Burris FastFire III for the following 4 reasons: The auto power off feature hits in after about 14 hours of use to save battery. Adjusting elevation and windage is easy and you can hear audible clicks when you turn the screw. (actually 1.047″). At the time of writing this article, a new Vortex Viper might cost The red dot blurs and loses its form on higher brightness settings. Finally, the sight comes with a very nice rubberized cover to protect it in storage. Practice using your reflex sight! They are designed to be a stop-gap in-between variable high powered optics and red dot sights. The multi-coated lens and anodize finish are identical to the Venom, as well as the location of the controls. Sometimes you'll need to get an additional mount for the scope. You get unlimited eye relief. Systems like the Glock MOS design can accommodate the Vortex Venom as well. It's a budget Chinese-made reflex that comes with the bare necessities. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. Vortex Optics. Vortex Optics Viper Red Dot Sight – 6 MOA Dot, CR 1632 battery not as common as the CR 2032. All the vortex pistol scopes are lightweight, although the vortex venom stands out as it's the more lightweight option. VENOM RED DOT The Venom features adjustable elevation and windage dials with 1 MOA clicks. Mechanical/electronic failure possibility - There are electronics inside this thing - a contact can go out, the glass can break, and so on. RRP: $330.00 Usually: Price: Price: $313.50. The only thing you have to worry about with LED sights it the battery. Robert is Survivalmag's Editor in Chief. Most of these cheap sights work and even hold their zero. With one button for brightness adjustment and one button for auto-mode, FastFire III is easier to operate. The Viper is slightly smaller and sleeker in size than the Venom. The easiest and the cheapest way is to get a Glock MOS. You have the standard windage/elevation adjustments. The Vortex Optics Venom Red Dot Sight is a quality reflex sight in a small, rugged form factor. There are basically 3 price classes when it comes to red dots. Dot performance is 90% - it works in all light conditions except for night vision. With some, you need to buy additional mounting or waterproofing hardware which will add to the cost. Let’s talk a bit about the specs first. Vortex’s Venom red dot is machined out of a hard alloyed aluminum as a single piece. The sight has memory - when you turn it on it activates on the last setting. Could potentially lose its zero - This is a possibility on cheaper scopes and doesn't generally apply to more expensive/professional ones. This is a proper military red dot. Compare the main Features, Specifications, Prices and Select the Best Model. We're lumping them all together because you won't see a significant difference in quality between a $100 red dot and a $40 red dot. DeltaPoint Pro comes without the mounting hardware, so you'll have to purchase it separately. Power and dot intensity controls are conveniently located on the left side of the sight to choose … We prefer LED dots as they work in all light conditions and batteries last a long time. 3 or 6 MOA red dot (this one is 3 MOA) About $350; 10 brightness levels. ADE's sight gets you decent value for your money - if you keep an eye on defective models and send them back. Quality problems are common - the sight turning off and losing its zero. Magnification: 1x Bullet … It's the best choice if you want a sight that you can rely on, but you don't feel like shelling out $400-$500 for a Trijicon or a Leupold. Let’s talk a bit about the specs first. Battery. But Vortex is known for offering one of the best warranties on the market. The Vortex Venom Red Dot Sight being used in this video is the first Red Dot I've agreed to install on any of my pistols. 10 Brightness Settings in manual mode or auto mode. Most reflex sights are made to mount on Glock MOS and Springfield OSP, but this really depends on your handgun. There are 5 illumination levels. The Body is made from a machined aluminum that has been mat coated with a dark anodized finish that protects it from oxidizing. The Vortex Venom utilizes a CR 1632 lithium coin battery, while the Viper utilizes and CR 2032 lithium coin battery. Burris FastFire III is another good reflex sight for the money, but lands slightly below Vortex Venom in our ranking. You have to unmount the sight to change the battery. Some people find it difficult to fasten the cap without cross-threading. Vortex actually recommended me using blue thread locker and gave me the recommended torque specs...solid as a rock and glad I did as I never want it to move . Up to 150 hours of use at the highest setting, and 30,000 hours at the lowest setting. For Glock MOS or Springfield OSP, you need to get this one instead. This model uses a CR 2032 battery rather than the CR 1632 in the Venom, making it easier to find on the market. It will lose its zero and who knows what other problems you might encounter. And I like where this industry is moving. Set of 2 Vortex Precision Matched Medium Rings 30mm . Ended up going with another Viper I got my FN 509 Tac because I really prefer the Aesthetics of the Viper over the Venom and the taller window. Ohuhu's Red Dot is one of the many Chinese mass-produced red dot sights on the market. Vortex Venom Red Dot Field Test Results. Max Elevation Adjustment 130 MOA. These are your competition/recreational red dot sights with Burris Fastfire III and Vortex Venom leading the way. Which makes them less reliable than LED dots. The Vortex Viper is designed for use on handguns only; it’s a smaller model, engineered to slip on most handguns and gives you only one dot option, the larger 6 MOA that is perfect for fast target acquisition in close combat situations. There are 8 manual settings for brightness, as well as the auto-adjust mode. There are many people arguing about this, but I've found mine to be better with a red dot, rather than without. They're often U.S.-made according to military specs and will handle anything you throw at them. Equipping your pistol with a good reflex / red dot sight will let you: … And of course, your gun will have that nice red laser pointing wherever you aim. The good thing about tritium is that it has no battery. Both Vortex Optics Venom Red Dot Sights have a Parallax-Free setting. Both the Venom and the Viper use CR 1632 batteries, and they both have auto shut-off features after 14 hours. To change the battery, you'll have to take the sight off the gun. The accuracy is adjusted by “clicks,” where a click is usually 1/4 or 1/2 MOA. This sight is far, far away from being "the best" red dot sight... but I was wondering whether a $20 sight can get the job done without: The start looks promising. Like … But if you're looking for a reliable pistol sight, you're better off saving up some money for a proper mid-price-range sight (like Burriss or Vortex) than going for one of the cheaper ones. Eye Relief Unlimited. Add to Cart. Targeting with guns now becomes really enjoying with the help of this small tool. Shooting on the move - Shooting on the move with accuracy is easier with the red dot - for obvious reasons. You'll have to apply some force to screw down the cover. 4. Rugged aluminum construction that you can rely on, And a solid brand that stands behind their products with a. Trijicon RMR Type 2 - Best Military-Grade Low Profile Mini Pistol Red Dot, 4. Comparison of Burris FastFire 3 (300235) vs Vortex Venom (VMD-3103) Red Dot Sights. Vortex Venom Red Dotis a nice add on for your pistol, shotgun or AR. Trijicon has 3 advantages over the other red dots in the same price class: If you want these, go for the Trijicon. No re-zeroing. Der Objektivdurchmesser des Venom beträgt ca. Are you kidding me?". Note: The top red dot sights reviewed in this article are compatible with most handguns – including the popular Glock 17/19/21 (all gens), Springfield XD, 1911’s, and even revolvers. Let’s take a look at both of them and see which one stands out, or if both stand out equally. Vortex Venom Vortex Viper; Available in different dot sizes: Low profile design: Good for both handguns or long guns: Best for pistols: Waterproof and Shockproof: Waterproof and Shockproof: Top load battery access: Very compact: Slightly larger than the Viper: Only one dot choice: CR 1632 battery not as common as the CR 2032: CR 2032, a more common battery choice You need to train to use red dots - If the alignment of your handgun is wrong when you pull it out, you won't see the red dot at all. With iron sights, you have both the front & rear sight to worry about (plus the target), which takes more work. Basically, a 3 MOA dot will do what the 6 MOA dot does, but not the other way around. Magnification 1x. If you go for Trijicon RMR, make sure you go for type 2, not type 1. Compare the main Features, Specifications, Prices and Select the Best Model. Windage and Elevation Adjustment To turn the Venom on, press either the up or down arrow. Great warranty - you get a lifetime warranty from Leupold on the scope. Burris Fastfire III is the only dot that comes close, but Vortex Venom is the clear winner out of the two for us. Tritium doesn't need a battery but doesn't work well in bright light. To put it simply, an LED on your red dot shines a beam of light onto a specially coated, slightly angled piece of glass. Battery access from the top means that you don't have to remove your scope when changing the battery. Burris vs Vortex: Fixed Power Prisms. The quality of optics is top-notch - the screen has a bluish tint and is very clear. Both models come with the same accessories, and they have a Picatinny mount, and both have Vortex warranties on the optics. Especially if you plan to use your pistol for self-defense, getting a red dot is well worth it just for the ability to properly threat-focus in a critical situation. Burris Fastfire III is the only dot that comes close, but Vortex Venom is the clear winner out of the two for us. Changing the battery is the most common complaint with Vortex Venom. Cost comparison vortex venom vs viper. If anything got in the way of that laser - like a leaf or a feather - you could lose your dot completely. There are 8 illumination settings along with an automatic setting. Simplicity is one area where Burris Fastfire III does beat Vortex Venom. Considering the specs that you're getting, Vortex Venom is easily the best red dot sight for the money that you can buy, and the best red dot from the Vortex lineup. Venom Red Dot Dimensions. The bigger the MOA (Minute Of Action), the bigger the dot. Light and tough, the FastFire 3 series puts an unmistakable, bright red dot on your target to give you an immediate speed and accuracy advantage. Especially important for self-defense. At first, finding the dot is hard when you pull out your gun, but you will get better with training. The window is smaller than on some of the competitors - DeltaPoint Pro and Vortex Razor. Check Today's Price On Amazon . This VIPER® RED DOT is a 6 MOA Dot sight with very similar properties to the Venom. But tritium sights can't pick up the dot in some light conditions. The 3 MOA options are very similar, the difference is very small and hardly noticeable. The overall length of the Venom is 1.9,” and it weighs 1.1 ounces. 14-hour auto-shutdown battery system maximizes life. You get 1 MOA windage and elevation adjustments, which makes it extremely versatile over many distances and it comes with a 1.6-ounce weaver/Picatinny mount. 1 MOA spreads about 1″ per 100 yards. Vortex Venom « previous next » ... Vortex actually recommended me using blue thread locker and gave me the recommended torque specs...solid as a rock and glad I did as I never want it to move. Videos. The house of Vortex is a major force in the gun optics market and produces a number of magnificent models that include riflescopes, red dots, rangefinders, binoculars, spotting scopes, tripods and monocular as well as an assortment of gear and accessories. Of course, Trijicon replaced the defective sights back then, but now they seem to have fixed the problem with their Type 2. Image Sources: Trijicon 2019 Catalog, Adam Rogers. So the laser would start to flicker when shooting. Required fields are marked *, not having your red dot turned up too much. This is an unboxing video and brief review of the Venom Red Dot sight made by the Vortex Optics company. Features. Mount Type Weaver/Picatinny. There are a few top rated gun accessory fabricators supplying exceptional sights for all sorts of applications. As a result, we picked out 6 red / green dot sights that are best in their specific categories: Note: Tap the blue links below to check the latest price. The case is made out of aluminum, which is a decent deal for what you're paying. The Venom gives you a fast battery change which in some instances can be critical. Especially your firearm is concealed, you'd have no trouble adjusting the illumination without taking it out. You might have to purchase a separate adaptor plate for this sight - for which you'll have to pay extra. But if you don't need the night vision and could live with shorter battery life, check out the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro below. And while Trijicon RMR is better overall, Leupold retails cheaper and has a couple of important upsides over the RMR that I want to talk about. I’m partial to the FastFire 3, but the Vortex Venom (see full specs) is hardy competition indeed. Make your AR, pistol or shotgun even more poisonous with the Vortex Venom Red Dot sight. Fixed power tactical sights are often low-powered optics with a 2.5 to 5 power. 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